in 1964 in mississippi but bbc reporter that was the first one to suggest the story is that these civil rights workers were in hiding and the students were doing this just to get publicity and the abc reporter paul good humana associate with jack nelson, these were some good guys knew that we were not a problem so we love them and we felt that through them we could get our story told. i think that is still a problem with the press since then this all of this time analyzing the players, the democrats and republicans and nobody is talking about the issues. there was a danger in the civil rights movement also. and jack wasn't one of those the was trying to find the popularity, who was winning the popularity contest. was black power going to defeat martin luther king? he wouldn't write a story like that. he understood what the problems were in the south and he bored in on them. .. >> i have the to observe when this panel started in was barbara then president carter then dr. young is on the sheer politeness that i am still scheerer. [laughter] i sort of feel like the rest of the sandy koufax